https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpa7N3EKLaA

FK – Preachers on both sides of the American abolition movement used the ancient tribal propaganda to their benefit. With the proper ‘interpretation’ one can prove or disprove almost anything. Maybe that was the intention.

I don’t know as much as I’d like about the enlightenment but my understanding is that the concept of natural rights has it’s roots both in religion and in humanist thought.

Are you free in England now? Of course not. What was the major religion there when socialism was voted in, which of course began the decline of your country and in reality spelled the doom of what liberty you did have?

Here in amerika the religionists of the the early 19th century up to today had/have a pathetic understanding of our Bills of Rights. Jefferson lived to see some of the results of the ‘great awakening,’ a great religious revival that swept early America and was deeply saddened by it.

One christian patriot told me a few years back that Jefferson is in Hell. I cannot respect that. Believing in such is condoning it. That’s how that works.

When they don’t or refuse to understand that ‘freedom of religion’ must by necessity mean ‘freedom from the religion of the nut down the road’ or the fundies hiding in a cave on the other side of the world also means freedom from their version, sub-version or subversion then I know I’m right.

In fact modern ‘christianity’ is so infiltrated as to not only be useless to itself but to any hope of restoring our republic or our Bills of Rights. That ‘old time religion’ is not what it was in my youth, or what the old folks sang about then nor what their grandparents sang about. Read Bradford’s diary and experience a relationship with ‘the word’ that would be impossible in today’s world and probably be seen as archaic.

A preacher with a clue, a rare thing:

More News You Won’t Hear Christians And Conservatives Talk About

Religion is an ancient control device, as you pointed out. The idea of liberty pre-dates monotheism and maybe by some miracle will outlive it. Look it up.

The purposes of gods and golden rules

Being raised rural southern Baptist and having some exposure to other versions, sub-versions and subversions has convinced me that for the most part religion only encourages ignorance, fear and apathy. In a common statement made by many believers “God is in control. I don’t have to worry about it.”

A wonderful excuse for sitting on their mental and physical asses and doing nothing while passing their slavery on to their children because they’ve been convinced by their preachers that the world will end soon and there’s nothing to be done anyway.

And they stupidly pass this on generation to generation along with their growing slavery.

The christian patriots who were a major part of my waking up 20 years age were and remain a tiny percentage of the overall religious population. I don’t expect that to change. Oh they’ll chase after the tail of some comfortable easy form of ‘conservatism’ which is based not in the enlightenment concepts of human liberty and natural law but in their version of ‘biblical morality’ that doesn’t require too much of them, but actually standing up and doing what will be required to fix this mess if it can be fixed is beyond them.

Christian rebels and modern cowards

Until we are prepared for the worst case scenario we are still losing.

My answer to ‘Molon Labe’

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