Well, while many non-violent offenders are being let off the hook — and even some violent offenders who plea bargained down to “non-violent” offenses — the bill actually increases penalties for many law-abiding (non-violent) gun owners.
Hence, section 105 of S. 2123 increases — from 10 to 15 years — the potential prison sentences for “prohibited persons” and for those who merely possess a new machine gun, even if they are licensed under the NFA.
Have a gun, go to jail … for a long time!
Regarding the penalties for “prohibited persons,” the increased penalties in the bill would include the more than 175,000 veterans who have lost their gun rights, if there is still a gun anywhere in the house.
And it would include the 4.2 million seniors whom Obama proposes to strip of their gun rights by doing a computer search of social security.
Think about it: While this bill lowers sentences for many offenders, it raises the penalties for law-abiding gun owners who have had their gun rights stripped from them — like veterans and seniors mentioned above.
FK – This is why we need a militia in every county in the country. Any time any BAFT Nazi trash tries to railroad anyone into prison it should be hunted along with any shysters participating. It’s garbage and should be treated as such.
FK – Sounds like we need to go over there again. This time we need to kill the commies that write the laws that make this evil possible. But let’s kill the commies here first.
Either she, or the character she is playing, is the post-feminist equivalent of the New Soviet Man. Programmed at a chromosomal level to think and act in collectivist terms, LeSavoy looks upon Barack Obama with the same enraptured, unalloyed devotion once directed at Stalin and Mao by their most dutiful cadres.
To her, Obama is social justice incarnate. Anointed by history and endowed with powers that are coterminous with his magnificence, he can change society by decree. Delusions of that variety were at high tide in the summer of 2008, when every syllable Obama read from a teleprompter caused adoring women to disintegrate into uncontrollable weeping.
When guns are outlawed “Liberal”(commie) trash season begins and the commie newswhores die first.
Many like me won’t sit home waiting for the black-suited Nazis to show up at the behest of communist trash like this commie professor that like its comrades loves to make a big show of their pacifism and compassion but have no problem sending out the police and military they often claim to detest to murder those who refuse to obey their commie laws.
One wonders if the trash will have a place mat with this creature’s face on it:
FK – Here old man is your answer:
‘If such a ‘law’ is passed and I know you supported it I won’t wait for the black-suited Nazis you’ll happily send to my door to come and murder me. I’ll simply go find you and any other “Liberal”(commie) trash I can get to and give it what it so richly deserves.’
Never forget that when your “Liberal”(commie) trash ‘friends‘ vote they vote to kill you.
Here’s a tiny step in the right direction:
FK – We need far more than this. We need patriot elected public servants and many others to help establish a militia force in every county in this country to deal with our real enemies, our domestic blood enemies, who have white skin and aren’t hiding in a cave on the other side of the world.
Our domestic blood enemies, our greatest enemies, have been indoctrinating the children for far too long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoVt4xiQhbs
FK – It’s way past time to get the commies out of our government indoctrination institutions and away from the children.
It’s time we take back our authority from those who would subvert it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kporKTCtThg
FK – Why? Our domestic blood enemies are waging war on us, our form of government, the Bill of Rights. All this is intentional. They know full well the evil they do. We’ve had the internet for 20 years. There are no excuses any more.
We all get the elected public servants the brain dead sheeple deserve.
I’ll vote for the candidate that will bring the troops home, activate the militias, and re-invade and re-conquer commiefornia and the other commie enclaves on the left and East coasts.
They’re not ‘leftists,’ ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive.’ They’re communists/globalists. They want us disarmed so we can’t kill them when enough finally wake up to the necessity of doing so.
Our Liberty is dying because of our failure to hunt the “Liberal”(commie) and globalist trash to extinction.
More than 39,000 African trophy animals have been legally shipped through Seattle since 1999, including 15 white rhinoceroses, nearly 200 elephants, more than 300 leopards and nearly 1,200 cape buffaloes, species — along with lions — that make up the so-called “Big Five” species of African hunting.
A Paul Allen-backed initiative this November will bring the African conservation fight to Washington voters but largely leave trophy hunters out of its crosshairs. Initiative 1401 would criminalize the sale and distribution of parts and products of 10 species, including elephants, tigers and lions. The campaign believes that would “reduce the incentive for trade and the poaching of these animals,” said spokesman Aaron Pickus.
FK – I’m a special oppressed rural person who’s all for helping wildlife. We need to ‘re-wild’ every major city in the world. Erect 14′ high fences around them, not avoiding where the rich “Liberal”(commie) trash lives, and stock the enclosures with whatever large predators are or were endemic to that region before settlement. No one would be allowed to molest or kill any predator feeding on un-armed “Liberal”(commie) trash. We can do it. Yes we can. Make the world a better place.
Rodger only used ten-round magazines during his attack.
According to The Sacramento Bee, the ballot proposition would also make it illegal for anyone other than a Federal Firearm License (FFL) holder to sell ammunition, thus guaranteeing that ammunition background checks would be done on every sale and enable the state government to know where every round was going. The initiative is also designed to put in place a system for confiscating guns from those “prohibited from owning them” and would force citizens to report lost or stolen firearms to law enforcement.
FK – My standard answer:
I’ll vote for the candidate that will bring the troops home, activate the militias, and re-invade and re-conquer commiefornia and the other commie enclaves on the left and East coasts.
They’re not ‘leftists,’ ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive.’ They’re communists/globalists. They want us disarmed so we can’t kill them when enough finally wake up to the necessity of doing so.
Our Liberty is dying because of our failure to hunt the “Liberal”(commie) and globalist trash to extinction.
Governments will always be able to get guns so we must always be better armed than them.
Act politically but prep for what history shows will have to be done. It’s way past time to prep for what will be required.
Will your “Liberal”(commie) trash ‘friends’ vote for this kind of garbage? Let me give you a hint, they’re not you’re friends. When they vote they vote to kill you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaXFu9jj4iE
FK – See my standard answer above. Such cowards we have in this country. This trash should’ve been executed for treason decades ago.
You saw Obama’s angry rant after the latest shooting in a gun-free zone.
The President declared all-out war on the Second Amendment, even suggesting that we should follow Australia’s example — a country that confiscated firearms from law-abiding citizens.
GOA in the News
Gun Owners of America prepared a blistering response to the President, which can be read here.
The President wants the eradication of guns to be his legacy.
And intense pressure that is being exerted inside-the-Beltway in Washington could coerce Congress into fighting on his side.
That is, unless we can stop them.
FK – We could stop them now if amerika had any men.
FK – Let them go for it. It will prove once and for all what our domestic blood enemies really are. Maybe then enough will wake up to and come to grips with what will be required.
FK – The innate arrogance of our domestic blood enemies, our greatest enemies, who have white skin and aren’t hiding in a cave on the other side of the world, prevents them from caring about any reality you present to them. They will force us to force them to stop working to enslave us further.
According to the evidence, every mass murder in recent times has been halted, in the final analysis, by shooting the murderers, or threatening to shoot them, with guns. Members of the press corps continue to debate the subject, despite the evidence. Sources speaking privately say the media consciously reject this fact. In stark contrast, self-defense incidents using guns are suppressed, by news-media policy, and do not appear on the public stage.
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Further analysis conducted by The Uninvited Ombudsman, has determined that background checks, or newly proposed additional background checks, recommended by Mr. Obama and others, would be pointless for people who already own guns, since they already own guns. The best estimates indicate this is about 100 million armed Americans.
And in other analysis conducted by The Uninvited Ombudsman, waiting periods have no meaning whatsoever for Americans who already own guns, when they go shopping for guns, since they already own guns. That is also 100 million Americans.
FK – 100 million armed Americans and we can’t take our country back?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3zJj_-GWEM
FK – So who are our real enemies? Are they hiding in a cave on the other side of the world?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw0-yQz5yfY
FK – Let Hitlery win. It’ll do the same thing the Marxist mutt has done: Keep the idiot tea partiers and ‘conservatives’ off the golf course and the couch, keep ammo and gun sales high and maybe just maybe, if the Marxist mutt doesn’t beat it to it, do something so arrogant that enough will finally see the necessity of doing what will be required.
Who are our real enemies? Do they have brown skin and are they hiding in a cave on the other side of the world?
FK – The word’s ‘illegal gun’ are not to be found in the Second Amendment. What we need to change is the pacified mindset of the average amerikan and the cowardice of the average ‘conservative’ and ‘libertarian’ so they will stand up, man up and prepare to do what will be required.
We need to stop wasting time arguing with domestic blood enemies who will not stop lying until we force them to stop lying.
The sad thing is that there are so many levels of awareness out there:
FK – What we need is a militia unit in every county in this country who can and will arrest every piece of trash that has created, voted for or supported a ‘gun control law’ and most especially those who enforce them and prosecute the victims of this government terrorism.
The Second Amendment doesn’t say anything about an ‘illegal gun’ or getting permission to exercise it.
Lot’s of ‘good people’ have shot lots of other good people into ditches because they were too stupid and cowardly to say ‘No.’ Most ‘good people’ in this country have been pacified by the government indoctrination centers, the mainstream news and entertainment media and the organized religions. They are willing slaves.
Don’t carry a gun until you have thought about using it in various circumstances. I learned by reading and shooting over the years. There are tons of vids on the net that can teach those who can’t afford to drop 600 bucks on a class. You don’t have to be Rambo to stand up for your Liberty. That’s what this is ultimately about. The crime issue is a red herring.
Did you offer to teach those college kids for free? It’s a good bet that they can’t afford a 600 buck class.
The commie newswhores won’t report on a ‘good guy with a gun’ unless they are forced to, at least on the national level. Lots of big city newswhores are probably prone to pressure from the local commie politicians not to do such reports. That’s the last thing they want is the common sheeple getting the idea they can stand up for themselves, especially against them and their badge wearing tools.
But that policy has one big exemption that renders the pastoral 100-acre campus near Roseburg anything but a gun-free zone: Everyone with a concealed firearms license is allowed to bring guns on campus.
That is because a 1989 Oregon law forbids any public body except the Legislature from restricting the rights of concealed weapons permit-holders to bring guns where they wish.
FK – Everyone’s asking the wrong questions here.
The pacifist mindset encouraged by our indoctrinational system is as much to blame as anything. But then it’s intentional. The “Liberal”(commie) trash want a population of pacified morons who’ll obey their laws, never ask inappropriate questions or stand up to their collectivist agenda so they must create a society that is disarmed, dumbed-down and again, pacified.
We are at war. Our greatest enemies have white skin and were likely born here.
The ‘crime’ issue is a red herring. Even if ‘gun control’ could be proven to lower crime it would still be evil.
All ‘gun control’ is propaganda designed to condition the sheeple to more ‘control’ until full civilian disarmament is achieved. Thus all gun control is an act of war. All who forward it should be arrested, tried for treason against Human Liberty and executed.
When guns are outlawed “Liberal”(commie) trash season begins. The newswhores die first.
I’ll vote for the candidate that will bring the troops home, activate the militias, and re-invade and re-conquer commiefornia and the other commie enclaves on the left and East coasts.
They’re not ‘leftists,’ ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive.’ They’re communists/globalists. They want us disarmed so we can’t kill them when enough finally wake up to the necessity of doing so.
Our Liberty is dying because of our failure to hunt the “Liberal”(commie) and globalist trash to extinction.
FK – The descriptions of the ‘victims’ are very telling. Mainstream society has been indoctrinated to value mindless pacifism and stupidly over awareness, alertness and readiness and possessing the dignity and knowledge necessary to fighting back against criminals in government or on the street or in a classroom. How sickening, sad, disgusting and horrifying.
This is far more horrifying than the handful of shootings that occur a year, and the thousands that are stopped by someone with a gun, whether a shot is actually fired or not. In a nation of 300 million that holds a healthy population of assholes who fully deserve to be shot the real miracle is there aren’t many more.
If Mintz or some other student or a professor had been armed and ended this situation after the first shot or two then the commie newswhore and Marxist front groups across our once (sort of)free country wouldn’t be screaming their heads off and their propaganda mills wouldn’t be turning full speed for that outcome wouldn’t fit in with their evil communist agenda.
FK – As many others have said the Founders would’ve been shooting by now. They went to war over much less.
The modern preachers and church have been prostituted by the state. But then maybe it was meant to be that way from the beginning: Obey the magistrates appointed over you; pay your taxes to Caesar(though we have no Caesar here); sit on your ass and do nothing because it’s all been written down and there ain’t nothin’ you can do about it(I’ve heard that one many times, though not in those exact words); cause we’re all gonna get beamed up soon but send your children to the govt. schools so they can get good jobs and have good incomes until Jesus comes; be a good slave and you’ll have paradise in the next life.
We need to stop waiting for the world to end and start thinking about what ‘civilization’ will transition to next, because that’s what history is, transition. It’s the book of ‘Revelation’ not the book of “OMG the world’s gonna end so we need to stock up on beans and raise a garden.”
The Founders stood up like men and women and killed their enemies. They conquered this continent and we draw our food and water from its blood-stained ground. Too many have forgotten or never knew that or are too squeamish and/or pathetic to want to think about it.
Every time another moron says “There ain’t nothin’ you can do about it,” for whatever excuse then another nail is driven in Liberty’s coffin. Those who do so are really the ones who are killing our country, not those who won’t follow whatever version, sub-version or subversion of the ancient tribal propaganda they interpreted to suit their own desires.
Try 160 years. And for the benefit of the simple-minded I’m not advocating a return to chattel slavery or taking the vote from women and on and on. Read “The Real Lincoln” and learn what that war was really about then read “The Life of Johnny Reb” and “The Life of Billy Yank” and see in their own words what they fought for. Lots of ignorant 19-year-olds die on battlefields.
The Romans lost their republic about 80 years after its founding as we did, and their empire survived for hundreds of years afterward and only completely collapsed after monotheism was introduced into their society.
I’ve been hearing about ‘the end’ for over 50 years. I’ll never forget the preacher who stood before me in a revival in the late 70s and said “I think it’ll all be over by 1985.”
How disgusting.
The Founders didn’t go dig a hidey hole and they already new how to subsist. They organized and trained and did what was required by going forth to meet their enemies where they were.
We have a Bill of Rights that makes us ‘exceptional’ among all other nations, a document that recognizes rights found in no other and even a ban on ‘cruel and unusual punishment,’ something primitive religions and those who follow them don’t have.
The sad fact is the next war will also likely be fought over which form of authoritarianism will dominate and as usual millions will die over causes they barely understand. That is the human condition until we learn a better way.
