FK – I tried to search, so far fruitlessly, to find whether Adams supported or opposed the Bill of Rights. Maybe it doesn’t matter. It’s hard to imagine someone restricting free speech against govt. who would write this:
But then the Founders were as obviously human as modern defenders of liberty and often as confused. But much of our confusion is due to ignorance of history, a neglect to view our domestic blood enemies in the light they deserve and plain old cowardice.
FK – Without seeing I’m guessing it could be called iconography. Does it show a bearded hey zeus? Who was the photographer or the ‘artist’ or illustrator?
The Ten Commandments on the wall doesn’t bother me. But let’s not be silly, or mindless.
Now I’m actually watching it. Is that preacher carrying a gun so he could defend his would-be fellow cultists? Or does he prefer the unsaved be burned alive in fire forever because they said “No thanks” to his alter call?
I grew up in this crap. Now it disgusts me. What’s really disgusting is what mainstream christianity has become, if it wasn’t already intended to be from the beginning, a tool of the state. Think about it: Obey the magistrates; pay your taxes; be a good servant or slave cause you’ll have paradise in the next life; don’t commit suicide or risk hell fire no matter your condition or suffering; don’t kill unless god(his reps on Earth, the priests or kings) orders you to go over the hill and kill all the pagans and not bring back so much as a goat or a sack of grain; you’re gonna get beamed up soon(modern interpretation) so you don’t have be politically active…
What would they say if a copy of the Bill of Rights were being removed? That’s what truly makes this country exceptional, including the ‘no cruel and unusual punishment’ part. Not like the ancient tribal propaganda with its bronze age god that was patterned after the ancient tyrannical kings who looked down their noses at their subjects and said “Obey me or I’ll torture and/or kill you.”
God works around ‘the devil?’ God made the devil according to most interpretations of the ancient tribal propaganda so ‘the devil’ by whatever name or incarnation is his tool.
Not sure of this guy’s version, sub-version or subversion but 30 years in this world, even at that time period, two years or so preaching, 3 days of torture at the hands of the Romans at the behest of the Jews who most certainly would have killed him themselves if they could have, doesn’t equal billions being burned alive in fire forever. No way no how.
The First Amendment is about ‘freedom from religion,’ any imposition via the Federal govt. of any religion or version, sub-version or subversion. Simple fact. What would he be saying if the fundie ragheads were trying to establish Sharia law and playing the ‘call to prayer’ 5 times a day in every podunk town in this country?
The ‘devil beating god’ would be like a carved chess piece beating the carver. This guy is paraphrasing ancient esoterica with no understanding of it. But then how much does the average believer understand? Most of them only nod their heads on Sundays and if they read their version of the ancient tribal propaganda they clearly don’t understand it. Anyone who claims it’s ‘inerrant’ and ‘true’ is a child.
Will the human race ever grow up? I don’t expect to see it in my time in this realm. We are still a very primitive species and we still exist in a very dark age.
Sir, the commies have been here for decades. Our failure to call them what they are and to hunt them to extinction is why we are losing our country and our Liberty. Your religion has played a major part in that. Simple sad fact.
Who’s educating(indoctrinating) your pastors?
The reason for maryjane in the schools is we have a less sheltered culture than we once had, and of course the drug war, which isn’t about morality or protecting the children or saving society but about money. Like the war on terror if the drug war wasn’t profitable for all the ‘right’ people it wouldn’t exist.
When I went away to college in the early 80s it was easier to acquire marijuana because it was illicit and the liquor stores actually required I.D. most of the time vs. the liquor stores back home who would on occasion tell me “Come back next weekend, the ABC’s in town.” This was in central Kentucky, on the border of the ‘dry'(protestant) counties and the catholic counties.
I remember very well preachers pontificating on ‘dope’ when I was a teenager and when Nixon started the drug war and Reagan escalated it. So why are we here?
Some of the Founders insisted on a Bill of Rights because they saw the inherent dangers in the new constitution and in human nature, the same human nature that created the dominant(in the colonies) religion at that time and the same human nature that changes the cultural interpretation of the ancient tribal propaganda over time as human society evolves from god appointed monarchies to elected representatives.
Historically humanism often or always moves hand in hand with socialism. Atheism is not a religion. It is the lack of religion. Socialism stems from the same human nature as religion, the human desire, maybe genetic for a reason, to seek out a savior or king or whatever to wave its magic wand and solve all our problems for us. This is proven with every prez election cycle regardless of which tool gets to pretend to run the country for four years, often voted for because he uttered the word ‘jesus’ a few times or said “You can’t beat the bible.”
‘Jesus in the court house’ would mean the elected, hired and appointed public servants keeping his alleged commandments, ten or otherwise, the golden rule, etc. and holding a real love for their fellow ‘man’ in their hearts, not a childish rendition of what he probably didn’t look like even if he really existed.
We need a large and readable copy of the Bill of Rights in all the schools and a non commie ‘interpretation’ needs to be taught. But then we need to focus on getting the commies out of the schools and away from the children. This would do far more good than focusing on ‘artwork.’
I’ve read the Constitution a few times and the word ‘jesus’ isn’t in there neither is any mention of anyone’s ancient tribal propaganda.
When the Romans lost their republic after 80 years, as we did, was it because they failed to obey their pagan gods? When their empire finally did fall after hundreds of years what religion was becoming dominant, because of politics(which is human nature and vice versa)?
What will you all do when they come with the cattle cars? Humbly get on board? Is that what the Founders did? No, they killed their enemies. Do any of you have the courage to publicly say what will be required to save what Liberty we have left? Are you waiting on god’s army, which has never existed, to swoop down from heaven and save you? It’s a good thing the Founding generation didn’t have that attitude.
If god’s flock isn’t ready to hear such a message whose fault is that?
Love is a wonderful thing. But without real wisdom it’s at best wasted. Not everyone goes by the ‘golden rule’ and not everyone minds being a slave, whether to worldly or non worldly entities.
Which tax exempt church that Lyndon Johnson silenced politically(unless it’s a commie church fighting for ‘civil rights’) should they go to?
Congress actually praying is certainly one of the most hypocritical things I can imagine, no matter what rock they claim to be praying to.
The ‘tyranny of the majority’ is exactly what the Bill of Rights is about repressing. The same ideals that are supposed to protect the ‘atheists’ or whatever today should do the same for the future ‘christian’ minority. That’s how it’s supposed to work.
From reading the New Testament I think they’re already a minority. That ‘old time religion’ I used to hear the old folks singing about really is a thing of the past and if the big beam up happens so few will be taken that they’ll just be added to the missing person’s list and life will go on as if nothing happened.
But that’s how it works. Eventually they’ll re-write the ancient tribal propaganda to suit modern culture and pretend nothing ever happened. The average ignorant ‘believer’ won’t know the difference.
He’s right about a small group of people that want to control everything else. They’re on all sides. It’s human nature unfortunately, that ‘must control others’ gene that has been so prevalent for so long and goes hand in hand with the submissive who have been surviving to breed for such a long time.
I learned much from ‘christian patriots’ in my waking up years ago and have some respect for those who take a stand even for things I can’t agree with but they must learn to focus on what matters and on winning this war for real human Liberty not ancient misinterpreted mysticism. But they are a tiny minority of the religious population. The rest are like grass waiting to be mown down, rooted in mindlessness, modern pacifism and cowardice.
We’re at the bottom of a deep well. The light at top must be reason and logic, the real building blocks of our nation, not blind faith, or blind patriotism, or we will most certainly drown.
I don’t pretend to have all the answers. That’s the point.
It works like this: in 2004 Kentucky had in an open election that it wanted “traditional marriage” by a margin of 75% of the entire states 3 million votes. That made it a constitutional amendment, the law of the land in Kentucky. So, when 9 black-robbed-wizards in Washington D.C. passed of their “opinions on law” as law to the (corporate) US from coast to coast they have no standing, except what we allow them to have. Guess what the States are to be run as little countries under the 10th Amendment of the US Constitution; each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right. If we don’t stand up to the Federal Government under the 10th amendment we are going to loose our country.
FK – (This is a fakebook post so maybe it’ll link correctly) What a tangled web we weave… No, not that this is deception but the irony of ‘states rights’ vs. the Bill of Rights. If the same idea is applied to the Second Amendment then commie states would be able to disarm their sheeple entirely. Wait, we have a state ran by commies but enough rural voters who are otherwise clueless to at least keep our guns. It’s likely we’ll continue to have yaller dawgs in the governor’s mansion and legislature. I’ve puzzled over this many times in the years since I attended a ‘watermelon bust’ in a western county several years back during the klinton era. I was told it was a ‘democrat’ event. They were all sitting around eating watermelon and listening to gospel bands. The sad fact is that for most of the population ignorance is golden. All we can do is keep banging our heads against the walls…
You probably remember the now-infamous mantra that we’ve heard from this White House: “You never let a good crisis go to waste.”
Right?
Well, the President traveled to Oregon today to further politicize the tragic shooting that occurred there last week.
But residents of Roseburg are not amused, and they are decrying the President’s visit today.
Over 8,000 people have signed onto a website declaring that the President is “not welcome” in Oregon today.
Some massacre survivors are boycotting the President. Some have told him to “quit with the gun control.”
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Don’t be surprised if we also see a presidential push for Universal Background Checks (aka, Universal Gun Registration).
We cannot let this stand. The President is trying to make an end-run around Congress, at a time when the House is in chaos.
That’s why it’s all the more important that we DEMAND that the next Speaker of the House use the appropriations process to defund (aka, kill) every illegal Executive Action on gun control.
Defunding gun control — that is, using the congressional “power of the purse” — is the same way we repealed an FBI gun tax under President Clinton, overturned a shotgun import ban by Obama, and killed the ATF’s multiple sales registration throughout the country.
This is the best way to repeal gun control, but it will require the Republicans to put on their “big boy pants.”
FK – How about we loudly and continuously demand a de-funding of the BATF Nazi trash and a repeal of all the laws they ‘enforce?’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of1Z4YbDuY8
FK – Respect a piece of trash that would see me killed in a heartbeat for refusing to obey its edicts? I don’t think so. It’s a Marxist/globalist tool and works for those who consider us to be livestock. So many still have so much waking up to do.
If you’re not a faker and if you truly value human Liberty and the Bill of Rights and think this is supposed to be a free country then there are two inescapable solid facts you must come to grips with: Your “Liberal”(commie) trash so-called ‘friends’ voted to kill you, and continue to do so every time they vote and their masters, the elites who run this world, consider you and them to be livestock.
The crime and ‘mass shootings’ issues are red herrings, distractions and excuses. The words ‘illegal gun’ and ‘license’ and ‘common sense gun laws’ and ‘concealed carry’ and ‘open carry’ and ‘fully automatic’ and ‘semi-automatic’ and ‘hunting’ and ‘sporting purpose’ and ‘civilian’ are not in the Second Amendment. A right applied for is a privilege.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0-11rPboS8
FK – How many are still in denial that the empire would do the same here it does overseas?
FK – It wouldn’t in reality involve all that. The ‘gun laws’ on the books already infringe, all of them. The ‘assault weapons’ ban infringed but we put up with it. When enough commies get into the congress and the now red house again they could very will gut the Second Amendment by doing what Australia and England did. A commie SCOTUS would not rule in the favor of Liberty. So where would we be then?
A Second Amendment that is treated like a toy to be taken to the range or the deer stand is a toy that can be regulated, registered, licensed, and confiscated. Only when enough real Americans come to grips with what the gun battle is really about and that we could win the gun battle but still lose the war and then develop the resolve to do what will be required will things really change.
Our domestic blood enemies, our greatest enemies who have white skin and were likely born here and aren’t hiding in a cave on the other side of the world will not relent in their efforts to fully enslave us until we force them to. They will never throw up their hands and say “Oh sorry we bothered you, we’re going home now to live in peace and Liberty with our neighbors.” They’re incapable of that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcjT0rDZKss
FK – While I certainly agree with the gist of this vid I have to ask: Will Palestinians traveling and working in their former homeland now controlled by its invaders be allowed to carry guns to defend themselves against the invaders?
According to the evidence, every mass murder in recent times has been halted, in the final analysis, by shooting the murderers, or threatening to shoot them, with guns. Members of the press corps continue to debate the subject, despite the evidence. Sources speaking privately say the media consciously reject this fact. In stark contrast, self-defense incidents using guns are suppressed, by news-media policy, and do not appear on the public stage.
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Further analysis conducted by The Uninvited Ombudsman, has determined that background checks, or newly proposed additional background checks, recommended by Mr. Obama and others, would be pointless for people who already own guns, since they already own guns. The best estimates indicate this is about 100 million armed Americans.
And in other analysis conducted by The Uninvited Ombudsman, waiting periods have no meaning whatsoever for Americans who already own guns, when they go shopping for guns, since they already own guns. That is also 100 million Americans.
FK – 100 million armed Americans and we can’t take our country back?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3zJj_-GWEM
FK – So who are our real enemies? Are they hiding in a cave on the other side of the world?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw0-yQz5yfY
FK – Let Hitlery win. It’ll do the same thing the Marxist mutt has done: Keep the idiot tea partiers and ‘conservatives’ off the golf course and the couch, keep ammo and gun sales high and maybe just maybe, if the Marxist mutt doesn’t beat it to it, do something so arrogant that enough will finally see the necessity of doing what will be required.
Who are our real enemies? Do they have brown skin and are they hiding in a cave on the other side of the world?
FK – The word’s ‘illegal gun’ are not to be found in the Second Amendment. What we need to change is the pacified mindset of the average amerikan and the cowardice of the average ‘conservative’ and ‘libertarian’ so they will stand up, man up and prepare to do what will be required.
We need to stop wasting time arguing with domestic blood enemies who will not stop lying until we force them to stop lying.
The sad thing is that there are so many levels of awareness out there:
FK – What we need is a militia unit in every county in this country who can and will arrest every piece of trash that has created, voted for or supported a ‘gun control law’ and most especially those who enforce them and prosecute the victims of this government terrorism.
The Second Amendment doesn’t say anything about an ‘illegal gun’ or getting permission to exercise it.
Lot’s of ‘good people’ have shot lots of other good people into ditches because they were too stupid and cowardly to say ‘No.’ Most ‘good people’ in this country have been pacified by the government indoctrination centers, the mainstream news and entertainment media and the organized religions. They are willing slaves.
Don’t carry a gun until you have thought about using it in various circumstances. I learned by reading and shooting over the years. There are tons of vids on the net that can teach those who can’t afford to drop 600 bucks on a class. You don’t have to be Rambo to stand up for your Liberty. That’s what this is ultimately about. The crime issue is a red herring.
Did you offer to teach those college kids for free? It’s a good bet that they can’t afford a 600 buck class.
The commie newswhores won’t report on a ‘good guy with a gun’ unless they are forced to, at least on the national level. Lots of big city newswhores are probably prone to pressure from the local commie politicians not to do such reports. That’s the last thing they want is the common sheeple getting the idea they can stand up for themselves, especially against them and their badge wearing tools.
Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly challenged the president’s statements. In comments that may be watched here, O’Reilly noted Obama’s selective outrage because the president routinely ignores the carnage in Chicago, his adopted hometown. In the process, he demolished the president’s assertion that places with the toughest gun laws have the lowest violent crime rates.
As the Seattle Times noted, “Obama dispensed with any pretense of accommodating his critics, rebutting predicted responses in unusually blunt terms. He noted that even as he spoke, he knew counterarguments were being prepared: that what was needed was more guns, or fewer restrictions.”
FK – From the above:
“According to NBC News, UCC had considered hiring armed security for the campus. School officials ultimately rejected the idea. According to retired UCC President Joe Olson, “We thought we were a very safe campus, and having armed security officers on campus might change the culture.” One wonders how yesterday’s events might “change the culture” on the small campus.”
One wonders what kind of ‘culture’ the commies were trying to instill in their indoctrination center. I can guess.
Remember, your “Liberal” friends voted to kill you…
They’re not ‘leftists,’ ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive.’ They’re communists/globalists. They want us disarmed so we can’t kill them when enough finally wake up to the necessity of doing so.
Our Liberty is dying because of our failure to hunt the “Liberal”(commie) and globalist trash to extinction.
FK – Why do these idiots get the idea that killing average brain-dead sheeple is going to help their cause in any way?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz098oN6Ido
FK – Maybe we should wage a propaganda war against all forms of authoritarianism. The religions are certainly forms of that. Simple fact. Why these idiots think their cause can be helped by killing average brain-dead sheeple is another matter.
It’s about human nature, not about any specific religion. We have a ‘must control others’ gene that is manifested in various ways.
Modern ‘Christianity’ is so infiltrated as to be useless, if it ever was anything but another way to keep the slaves working. It’s certainly not the religion of the Founders who stepped out of their homes leaving their families behind and who went forth to do what was required. Oh for such men and women now…
If the fundie ragheads ever gain any real political ground in this country it will be because of our failure to deal properly with our domestic blood enemies who have white skin and were born here and who will pass the laws that make it possible.
WWIII may very well be fought over whose version, sub-version, subversion of whatever sadistic asshole of a god will get to burn the vast majority of humans that ever existed alive in fire forever. What a sad and disgusting commentary on the ‘human race.’ And we’re getting all excited over a lone nut who killed several morons who didn’t have enough common sense to be able to defend themselves.
The human race is still a very primitive species and we still exist in a very dark age.
FK – It’s been ‘on’ for a long time. How much longer?
They’re not ‘leftists,’ ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive.’ They’re communists/globalists. They want us disarmed so we can’t kill them when enough finally wake up to the necessity of doing so.
Our Liberty is dying because of our failure to hunt the “Liberal”(commie) and globalist trash to extinction.
FK – I bet they’re all ‘nice’ people. Lots of nice people have shot lots of other nice people into ditches because they were too stupid and too cowardly to say “No.”
“The honor of John Boehner this morning stands in stark contrast to the idiocy of those members who seek to continually divide us,” said Rep. David Jolly (R-FL) of Florida.
“The shutdown caucus as I call them has a small victory,” Jolly said.
FK – As if the imperialistic beast system would actually ‘shut down.’
FK – Well let’s see. All the ‘victims’ of 9/11 who had to be morons to begin with for not knowing the danger we already faced at that time from our own govt., without even getting into the discussion of who/what really ‘attacked’ us, weren’t even ‘allowed’ to defend themselves in New Yawk City without fear of a felony conviction.
This is how I responded to all the propaganda then and I haven’t changed my mind one bit about it.
I’ll never ‘forget’ how disgusted I was at how ‘surprised’ all the braindead sheeple were that something like that could happen here. The only thing I was surprised at was that it wasn’t far worse or they didn’t use nukes, the ragheads or our govt. or the mossad or the Saudis or some combination thereof or whoever the hell really did it. Time to wake up and grow up. They only killed 3000 in a nation of 300 million and our sorry ass congress passed the ‘patriot’ act, thousands of pages they didn’t read that had already been written. They should all be hanged for treason for that.